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ABrown
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Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 09:31 pm:   

Hello there, I have a client interested in deploying an MMS Content Service. They would like to be able to send messages via HTTP to an MMS service provider who is already 'hooked in' to the major carriers. Being a novice at MMS technologies, and after a day's worth of research, I've deducted that the Now SMS/MMS Gateway is an interface that would have the ability to communicate with each respective carrier's MMSC... is this correct? If so, are there any companies out there acting as a messaging service provider, or is there such a thing?

I've seen European equivalents, but nobody in the states. Thanks for your help.
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
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Username: Bryce

Post Number: 2527
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 08:41 pm:   

In the US, you can get to T-Mobile, AT&T Wireless, and Cingular using NowSMS with a connection to an SMS service provider.

It generally takes 2 SMS messages to send an MMS message, so this is quite a reasonable approach. (And it is possible with tweaking to get it down to 1 SMS per MMS in many configurations.)

If you find a provider, this is likely the approach that the provider is taking, and they are just charging more money for hosting the MMSC on your behalf.

As the carriers do not have MMS interoperability between each other yet, this is a better approach than getting an account with a carrier at this time ... as then you would need an account with each carrier.

However, I haven't seen anyone providing 3rd party hooks into Sprint's or Verizon's MMS, just the GSM based operators.
Milan
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Username: Heck

Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 11:39 am:   

What is the best way for Receiving and Sending lagre volumes of MMS (must include all UK networks)?

10x
Anonymous
 
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 03:41 am:   

how to we tweak to squeeze 1 mms into 1 sms?
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
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Username: Bryce

Post Number: 2594
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 04:01 am:   


quote:

What is the best way for Receiving and Sending lagre volumes of MMS (must include all UK networks)?




I don't know that there is a single best way at present.

GPRS modems are the most reliable way to get to all of the operators. (But they cannot handle truly high volumes.)

O2 and Vodafone are supposedly in the process of launching MMS connectivity services, but I haven't seen details of pricing and availability yet.

It is somewhat ironic that you can send large volumes of MMS to O2 and Vodafone users today, with your own MMSC and an SMS connection.

To get to T-Mobile and Orange users, you need to use a GPRS connection, or go through an MMSC connectivity service like the ones that O2 and Vodafone are supposedly in the process of deploying.
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
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Username: Bryce

Post Number: 2595
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 04:03 am:   


quote:

how to we tweak to squeeze 1 mms into 1 sms?




http://support.nowsms.com/discus/messages/1/641.html
http://support.nowsms.com/discus/messages/1/417.html

And if you are sending out MMS messages as broadcasts, keep the address of the sender short (preferably a short e-mail address).
Milan
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Username: Heck

Post Number: 4
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 12:52 pm:   

Thanks, that is what I was looking for.

I have two more questions:
- Can I receive ALL (from all UK networks) incoming MMS to a single phone number (in other words, do T-Mobile and Orange allow subscribers from other networks to download MMS from their MMSC?)?
- Do networks in UK charge for incoming MMS traffic?

Thanks alot.
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
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Username: Bryce

Post Number: 2635
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 04:29 am:   

Yes, you can receive from all the major UK networks (O2/Voda/Orange/T-Mobile, I'm not sure if 3 is hooked in to the interconnect yet) on a single phone number.

Basically, there is an interconnection between the operators, so if an O2 user sends to an Orange user, the O2 MMSC transfers the message to the Orange MMSC, and the Orange user actually receives it from the Orange MMSC.


quote:

Do networks in UK charge for incoming MMS traffic?




Orange and T-Mobile do not. O2 and Vodafone do (because you are using their normal WAP APNs, so it downloading the MMS counts as WAP traffic).
Mike Griggs
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Username: Magriggs

Post Number: 5
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 08:24 am:   

Bryce

We checked - at great length! - with Vodafone and they don't charge for the GPRS traffic used when downloading MMS, as long as you're downloading from their MMSC. Downloading from a third-party MMSC, say a NowSMS install somewhere, would incur charges.

mike
Reda
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Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 06:33 pm:   

Dear Now SMS,

We are searching for a provider that can give us the ability to send polyphonic ringtones via a gateway.

We are actually using an sms gateway but it just handles monofonic ringtones.

What can be the solution ? is it using MMS ?

Can you provide this service or an alternative solution ?


Regards
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
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Username: Bryce

Post Number: 3059
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 10:46 pm:   

Reda,

You could use MMS for that purpose, but WAP push is more economical ... and WAP push messages can be sent through a conventional SMS service provider (as long as they support binary SMS messages, which they would have to for monophonic ringtones anyway).

The Multimedia WAP Push functions in NowSMS allow you to post the content to NowSMS, and it handles sending out the push and hosting the content (and generating dynamic URLs for the content). Or you can put the content on your own server and send out WAP push messages (NowSMS can also be used to generate those push messages).

-bn
Uresh
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Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 06:16 am:   

what is the procedure to be followed for sending polyphonic ringtones using NowSMS to any type of mobile handset (that supports polyphonic ringtones)?

Plz explain in clear.
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
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Username: Bryce

Post Number: 3544
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 04:18 pm:   

Hi Uresh,

The main monophonic ringtone formats are RTTTL used by Nokia Smart Messaging, and iMelody used by EMS (search this forum on a keyword of ringtone, and either of the above keywords, and you will find more links).

Basic polyphonic ringtones are of the MIDI format, and they are generally transferred over WAP. If you want to send one of these ringtones to a device, you send it using WAP Push (either push a URL pointer to the content on your server, or use the multimedia WAP Push function in NowSMS). Basically, MIDI content is too large to be transferred via SMS alone.

Beyond polyphonic ring tones, you get into "true tones" or "real tones". Those are generally in the AMR or MP3 formats, again transferred over WAP.

-bn
Uresh
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 02:42 pm:   

Hello Bryce,

Thank you for your support.

How far the nowSMS can be used for this purpose? If so, what is the procedure to be followed?

Or else you can suggest any MMS gateways that are providing the services to send polyphonic ringtones

Thank you once again.
Uresh
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Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 04:18 pm:   

Hello Bryce,

Also plz suggest some MMS gateways that accomplish in sending polyphonic ringtones from internet to the mobile directly.

Regards,
Uresh
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
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Username: Bryce

Post Number: 3564
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 09:14 pm:   

Uresh,

The easiest way to get started with NowSMS is to put your MIDI file on a web server. Make sure that the MIME type associated with the file is "audio/midi".

Then, use the "Send WAP Push" function in NowSMS with a pointer to the URL for the file on that other web server.

One issue that you'll run into, however, is that if the link you are pushing is static, then it is easy for users to forward the ringtone to each other.

The NowSMS Multimedia WAP Push function can help with this. The following links talk about how to use Multimedia WAP Push.

http://support.nowsms.com/discus/messages/485/5402.html
http://support.nowsms.com/discus/messages/12/2276.html

Notice that I'm still talking about WAP Push and not MMS. MMS is perfectly fine for sending ringtones (and you can use NowSMS to send MMS messages), but it tends to be more expensive to send MMS messages ... and premium rate MMS services are not as readily available as premium rate SMS services. (WAP push can be sent using premium rate SMS service providers.)

-bn
rakesh_ds
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Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 07:58 am:   

How to SMS polyphonic ringtones to enduser.
James - Unit92
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Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 02:02 am:   

Hey all, recently downloaded and installed the application, is currently working for fine with my mnobile phone hooked up to the USB port,

however i am looking to significantly increase the number of SMS's going out and plan to use the "push" function to send 3gp videos th compatible handsets,
i am located in australia, and from what i can tell there is a shortage of acceptable carriers to sign up with here to use smpp or another internet protocol, any suggestions would be majorly appreciated

cheers

Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
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Username: Bryce

Post Number: 4076
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 09:32 pm:   

Hi James,

I don't recommend any specific providers. But generally speaking, while few wholesale providers are Australia based, the major providers should have good coverage for Australian subscribers.

Clickatell, Mobile365, MBlox all claim to support Australia. But I'm not sure how reliable their routes are there. They are probably routing messages in over roaming links, as opposed to direct connections to the operators, so reliability may be a little less than a local provider.
Mark
Unregistered guest
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 10:08 am:   

Hello,
I am building a website selling mobile contents such as polyphonic ringtones and graphics in US. I am think about sending above contents via "WAP Push" method. Does any of US mobile carriers have maximum downloadable file size for the contents such as ringtones and graphics? Are there such restrictions with US carriers?

Thanks,
Mark
Anonymous
 
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 11:07 am:   

Hi I would like to know the difference between using GPRS modem, GSM modem and using third party service provider.... for the single purpose of sending MMS.
Thanks
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
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Username: Bryce

Post Number: 4489
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 07:37 pm:   


quote:

I would like to know the difference between using GPRS modem, GSM modem and using third party service provider.... for the single purpose of sending MMS.




For starters, see http://www.nowsms.com/howmmsworks.htm for an overview of how MMS works.

Using a GPRS modem allows you to send messages instantly, because you are effectively sending them through the operator MMSC the same as an MMS client on a mobile phone would.

If you use an SMS service provider, then your target operators might be blocking message delivery from external MMSCs.

Some mobile operators do offer accounts to connect directly to their MMSC without having to go the GPRS modem route. But it is often relatively expensive.

So far, independent MMS aggregation has not caught on to the extent that SMS aggregation has, so there are relatively few independent MMS service providers ... and those that do exist have extremely limited coverage areas restricted to specific markets.
Raj Nukala
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Username: Rajnukala

Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 04:08 am:   

Can someone tell me which are the providers in US through which I can send MMS Messages. I tried calling and leaving messages for mobile365, mblox and never heard anything from them .. I am disappointed for their lousy service , not even give me a call back .

Which service provider is the best for US Markets. Please respond with your thoughts and experience

Regards
Raj
fahgria ismail
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Username: Fudge

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Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 09:03 am:   

i need a funky ringtone sent to my phone please 0733024384 and i need wap on my 2300 nokia
Anonymous
 
Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 05:16 pm:   

Hi all,
I'm just getting into MMS technologies and most of my research keeps on pointing me back to nowSMS so am convinced that the platform should be able to do the job.

I will however like to know, if there are service provides that i can subsribe to to deliver the MMS messages for me. And will the recipient get charges for receiving the MMS. help pls
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
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Username: Bryce

Post Number: 4966
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 02:37 am:   

Generally speaking, there aren't as many bulk MMS providers, as there are bulk SMS providers. The reason for this is because MMS interoperability agreements between mobile operators are not as well established as SMS interoperability agreements.

There are a few bulk MMS providers that serve particular countries where they have agreements with all of the operators, but it's just not widespread like SMS, yet.

Recipient charged MMS, or premium rate MMS, is unfortunately even more rare. But if you're just targeting a particular country, then there might be an option available. Unforutnately, it means a lot of Googling on "premium rate MMS", and wading through the links that only deal with SMS.

-bn